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rich_jacko ([personal profile] rich_jacko) wrote2007-08-13 10:22 pm
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Science good. Tree pretty.

Given the number of Dawkins-related posts on my Friends list, and the rumours that he is supposedly less rabid this time around, I thought I'd give his new mini-series a go.

Er, it wasn't exactly anything special, was it? I thought it was a very empty programme, in which all Dawkins seemed to do was go, "Look folks, isn't astrology silly! Look folks, isn't dowsing silly!"

Apart from two minutes of Pavlov's pigeons, he made no attempt at figuring out why people turn to the weird and wacky, or why they feel disillusioned with science (Something to do with "feelings" being trendy, apparently. Nothing to do with science being perceived as difficult or geeky.) No proper debate, though I was quite amused by the medium who pointed out that Dawkins wasn't saying anything a hundred other people hadn't said before. I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this ;o)

His parting shot was slightly scary. Apparently, the interwebs are evil because they let people share ideas which aren't approved of by the Dawkins Thought Police. Didn't you realise that the interwebs are to blame for the MMR scare? If only we'd all listened to the scientists. Apart from the ones who started the MMR scare, of course. They probably weren't even proper scientists. I bet they were Sagittarians.

Next week: Richard Dawkins points and laughs at some kids as he tells them there's no Father Christmas.
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[personal profile] mathcathy 2007-08-14 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
I caught the end of a show-promoting interview with him on Radio 2 yesterday - and set the video. I'll watch it when I'm alone and can think clearly.

It was interesting: listening to Steve Wright futilely trying to point out to him that there's more to life than science - that mediums can be comforting, religion can bring hope etc.. Dawkins said that he doesn't have any problem with people who believe ... if they don't try to force others to their beliefs. That's interesting, coming from him, when my experience is that he's made a career out of mocking other beliefs from (what he believes is) a superior perspective.

[identity profile] rich-jacko.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
Dawkins is amazingly amusingly sanctimonious and hypocritical like that:

"Religious people are bad. They antagonise everyone else by telling them their beliefs are wrong and everyone must convert to their, true religion. We must make those religious people understand that their false beliefs are wrong and convert them to the truth of atheism - All praise reason! Hallelujah!"
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[personal profile] mathcathy 2007-08-14 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
It was fabulous listening to Steve Wright arguing with him without actually seeming to. You know, in the way that radio presenters have of being neutral whilst asking one-sided questions. Dawkins was blind to it.

[identity profile] glitterybint.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
grrr, Dawkins makes me so angry! I was shouting at the telly for most of the program. He makes scientists look bad!

Oh, and it was skinner's pigeons, not pavlov.

[identity profile] rich-jacko.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I couldn't remember whose pigeons they were. But it was a simlar enough experiment to Pavlov's dog, and I liked the alliteration :o)

[identity profile] caerban.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have long since held the belief that Dawkins is so far up his own arse that if he took a torch he could see his tonsils. In fact I've held it since I tried reading The Selfish Gene and The Blind Watchmaker back in 6th form.
One of my old Uni lecturers had some revolutionary evolutionary ideas which were soundly condemned by Dawkins without him ever actually justifying his condemnation. I thought they were quite reasonable based on his evidence and they colour my ideas on evolution.