Not as easy as it used to be

[rich_jacko]

I'm sure I detect the tide of opinion on Indiana Jones and the thingy of the Crystal wotsit going the same way as that of the Star Wars prequels - i.e. - initial reactions fairly positive, quickly turning to "Meh", and eventually hitting "It was Teh Shite! George Lucas must DIE!!!!1!!1138!!"

So, before it gets too late, let's do a quick poll. I might repeat this one in six months to a year's time, to see whether opinions have changed.

[Poll #1220500]

Comments

[san-valentine.livejournal.com]

Difficult to pick an answer for the question about the Star Wars prequels. I disliked The Phantom Menace when I saw it, and have not yet changed my mind. I thought the second one was pretty good, and the third one OK.
The poll doesn't give the option of liking only some, and not others. It assumes you feel the same way about all three.

[rich-jacko.livejournal.com]

It was meant to be an Indy poll and I didn't want to complicate it too much by asking loads of Star Wars questions (that I'm sure I must have posted a poll about before).

It's interesting that the second prequel seems to be quite well received these days, though I remember it being the target of plenty of venom at the time.

[pharrap.livejournal.com]

I understand what people didn't like about the Star Wars prequels, but on balance I liked them: the annoyances didn't bother me as much as others.

I object to every scene that was an obvious setup for a computer game rather than a valuable scene in the movie, though (podracing, the robot factory fight)

And, y'know, Midichlorians.

I think the new versions of the old trilogy have got the nerd rage up more than the prequels. Greebo shooting first was the unforgiveable George moment. Editing Hayden Christensen into the end of Jedi was just so unnecessarily tinkering.

Imagine a new Indy where they rework the fight scene in the market "as George intended" where Indy actually swordfights the giant dude instead of just shooting him. It could yet be coming.

[rich-jacko.livejournal.com]

Somehow I don't think Spielberg would let him! Mind you, after the guns/walkie-talkies incident in ET, who knows?

Fortunately the only change I spotted on the Indy DVDs was removing the Well of Souls reflection goof (http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark#Trivia_and_goofs). I don't have any truck with this "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark" retitling nonsense.

You're right about the more irritating bits of the Special Editions. It's a shame too, because the Greedo and Hayden Christensen stuff overshadows a lot of more subtle changes which are actually improvements - the new X-Wing/TIE shots in the Battle of Yavin, or Ian McDiarmid in Empire, for example.

I must get round to making that edited version of Episode I without the Midichlorians...

[dave-chimaera.livejournal.com]

Broadly speaking I agree with the Harrap above - I never liked Phantom Menace much and that continues to this day, but I enjoyed both Clones and Sith and consider them worthy additions to the franchise, although both are not without their faults :)

As far as Indy goes, for me the first will always be way out in first place, with Temple being a distant second (yes I know its the least 'Indy' of the series, but I really liked it) and the other two yet further down the chain (I have never been especially fond of Last Crusade)

[pharrap.livejournal.com]

answers 1 and 5 about the Star Wars prequels are the same, aren't they?

[rich-jacko.livejournal.com]

Yes they are. A copy/pasting error I spotted (as usual) five seconds after it was too late to do anything about it.

[caerban.livejournal.com]

You may wish to watch this* although possibly not in the company of the sensitive.


*All the way through until the film review after the game review.

[rich-jacko.livejournal.com]

The game review was better. The film review was just lame.

[thegreatgonzo.livejournal.com]

Fuzzy felt deep space nine!

[bonedancer.livejournal.com]

Stickle-brick Babylon 5!

[littlejenny123.livejournal.com]

You think folks are going to be honest about changing their opinions?! The biggest u-turns are always followed by 'I always thought that', especially when the need to conform is factored in.

Of course, what other people say never changes my mind ;-D.

[rich-jacko.livejournal.com]

That's why I'm going to ask this poll again at a later date ;o)