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ZOMG! How did they keep that one quiet?!

Also, I'm very amused that [livejournal.com profile] otter_girl was right about the bees: "So long, and thanks for all the nectar!" Almost as amused as I am by the Daleks knowing who Harriet Jones is :o)

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-06-28 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astatine210.livejournal.com
Dalek Caan burbles something about a "three-fold man". Cameos from previous Doctors, I dunno.

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-06-29 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiv.livejournal.com
nah, could just be a reference to Jack and his evolutions.
Normal bloke -> immortal -> Face of Bo.

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-07-01 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rich-jacko.livejournal.com
I'm thinking maybe some interim stage between Doctors 10 and 11, kind of like the Watcher from Logopolis or the Valeyard from Trial of a Time Lord...

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-07-02 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiv.livejournal.com
I still don't really understand how the Watcher 'worked'.
And it wasn't really an interim stage, it was a separate entity until it merged with the doctor during his regeneration.

As for Valeyard, wasn't he just a distillation of the Doctor's worst aspects? A faulty clone rather than a regeneration?

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-07-03 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rich-jacko.livejournal.com
The Watcher was never really explained properly in the story, but the BBC website describes him as "a wraith-like intermediate stage between the Doctor's fourth and fifth incarnations".

I've not seen ToaTL (nice acronym!), but the site has this to say:

"The Valeyard...is an amalgamation of all the Doctor's evil, and is between the Doctor's 12th and final [13th] incarnation. [This distinction would only be made if the Valeyard is different from the Doctor's 12th and 13th selves. Thus, he seems to be of the same nature as Cho-Je (Planet of the Spiders) or the Watcher (Logopolis), a projection of the Doctor's future self, one which might not be like what the 13th incarnation actually turns out to be."

- Watcher (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/logopolis/detail.shtml)
- Valeyard (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/trialtimelord4/detail.shtml)

I guess that counts as canon.

Back with Journey's End (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S4_13), my latest theory is that the Doctor's regeneration somehow blasts his 11th incarnation apart from the 10th, out of the weird Dalek time pocket and back into the normal universe.

Doctor no.10 might stay in the Medusa Cascade, or he might not. I reckon this could be another Doctor-lite episode and mainly focussed on the (many!) companions.

The Christmas/next year specials could then take place with Tennant, before we catch up with Doctor no.11.

But hey, my theories on what's going to happen change on an almost daily basis at the moment :o)

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-07-03 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiv.livejournal.com
I wonder if his hand might play a part, it was getting a fair bit of screen time. Genetic template blahdeblah.

We still don't know what's up with Donna but I'd be tempted to say that the 'something new' might just be an ability to warp time and space around her to revert the Doctor back to his 10th incarnation.

Oh, one last thing. The only time I know that the Earth was moved was during Trial of a Timelord, coincidentally featuring one Mr. Valeyard so you may be right.
Also I picked up on Sarah-Jane's address. 'Bannerman Drive' as in Delta and The Bannermen (7th Doctor), not that I can remember what exactly happened, other than there was a group of space tourists not unlike Voyage of the Damned as well as numerous mentions of bees.

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-07-05 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiv.livejournal.com
half a point for the use of the hand? :p

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-07-05 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rich-jacko.livejournal.com
Oh, I think so :o)

The bigger question now is whether Tennant's doing series 5/31 or not? Were all those hints that he might be leaving just for the benefit of this finale?

Re: SPOILERS!!!!

Date: 2008-07-05 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiv.livejournal.com
The original reports way back when said the Tennant would be doing some of 10.4/5/31 but not all of it. I'd say that's probably still going to be the case

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